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看見有領隊朋友問及有關網上對戰時如何利用lag機來屈機的技巧，我們便特別邀請了近期人氣急升的「網上time lag屈機皇」 – 黃島主為我們現身說法，說說這些屈機攻畋。以下就是他為我們撰寫的攻畋內容：
在Winning 2008之Network對戰中所謂以time lag來屈機，其實是利用Winning 2008之最大bug：以body balance極強的球員來衝刺。當中，以杜奧巴、伊巴謙莫域、阿祖安奴、C郎、郎尼仔、亨利、依度奧等為首「屈」一指的球員。若以數字看，依巴、阿祖和杜奧是全遊戲中的屈機之王。
何謂屈機？
就是在body balance強的球員在帶波全速前進時，防守一方無論按X或同時正方，都不能攔截攻擊球員的球。就算，您用X+正方也好，那兩位防守球員就活像只是「黐」著前面的球員前進，而直至前面攻擊球員到達龍門射球為止。
這個屈機情況，在PS3的Network 上尤其嚴重。這是由於PS3 Network在開發時主要是針對日本人地區，所以外國人與日本人對戰時，多有time lag的情況。什麼是time lag？就是您與對手在螢幕上看到不同時差的畫面。即是，您的畫面是追到並奪了對方的球，但對方螢幕上則是繼續帶球。當兩部主機分岔的情況越催嚴重時，這時server就會作出調整。以我經驗，一有這裏「疑點」情況，server都會「給予」攻擊方「優惠」。即是，攻擊方繼續前進。所以，所謂屈機情況，就是當您用body balance高的球員時，攻方和守方畫面未必一致，而在這個疑點上，攻方球員就會繼續前進，守方完全從後搶不到對方的球。
那麼，在這個winning 2008 network上，可以說是無實質防守可言。大家鬥的，就是鬥「進攻」，看誰的入球多。當然，您不靠屈機而進球，是您的技術，但網上對戰的人，多以屈機入球，您若不屈，就會輸蝕。從Network排名榜上，我也留意到高手的近20場賽事，其失球也很多，只是其入球更多而已。
如何屈？
簡單說，就是控制球員前進時，當球在球員右邊，而後面追截的防守球員在左邊，而進攻球員body balance強過防守球員的話，後面追截的防守球員幾乎是無可能追截到球。上面說過，就是有兩名球員追截，也是徒勞無功。所以，當您使用body balance強的球員，只要您能首先盤扭過敵方球員，再加上高速，防守球員一被「過頭」，就無可能追到您的球。這情況與以往winning version不大同，因為以前被扭過的球員也可以追回頭。
怎樣防守？
對付屈機，唯一就是鏟，或按正方掣撞之。但一般準繩度都偏低，您一定會鏟倒對方而被罰牌。當然，在網上也有不少高手，逢鏟必中。這分分鐘是這個winning version致勝的重要原因。除了以上外，當防守球員以「正面」和「90度」攔截，都可以搶回body balance強的球員的球。關鍵是，「永遠不要從後追截」。
由於在網上對戰有time lag，有很多對手都不會交波入球，即是底線交地波傳中由中路前鋒入波。何解？因為有時time lag，明明中間球員「接應」射入了，但原來是lag，無啦啦個波過左您前鋒隻腳，您就踢空氣，甚為吹漲！所以，若以body balance強的球員一直帶波兼起腳，就不會令自己有time lag。所以麻，以這樣的方法入波，只是鬥大家防「屈機法」鬆懈，並不是光采的勝利。
這樣的屈機情況，在大家同時在一個螢幕前one two play，會沒有那麼嚴重。就是因為無time lag，就少了「疑點」歸於攻方的情況。
我本人有PS3和X-Box360，而兩個winning 2008的version都有。X-box360的網絡比PS3好，嚴重time lag情況較少，可以當真人實戰用。不過，未必人人喜歡用X-box360的手掣。就我而言，我完全不能用X-box的手掣來扭波。再者，X-box360的Winning 2008玩家人數遠遠少於PS3的註冊玩家。
所以，我本人覺得，由於PS3網上的人多屈機，所以就算是在Network排名高的人，real time實戰時(即同一部PS3前) ，未必有著數，因為沒有了屈機情況。況且，在Network上，人人也是用屈機之Teams如Chelsea，巴塞，國米等等，完全是無戰術可言。與屈機的人打得多，會打壞手。因為您只懂屈人機和反被屈，一遇頻頻交波的高手，會輸到貼地。我曾經遇過有個日本仔，用日本隊，猜波猜到您傻。雖然最後我用國米和了他，但若他不是用日本隊，我一定輸。
如何實戰屈機？
最簡單的，是用國米打防守陣，後防一搶到波即交伊巴爆一程，撞開兩三名球員入底線，再交屈機之獸阿祖安奴，爆入禁區，大事可成。不過，這是network上出名的「屈招」，很多「高手」在一開始看到您選國米時，就會hang機不和您戰，可見國米有幾「臭名遠播」。順帶一提，在network上一日未「開波」，隨時也可以離開畫面不戰，也不會被罰輸0:3。
大家看我在網上扭波扭得過癮，其實是網上有很多傻仔。聖鬥士的絕招，也只能用一次。當然，我的扭波方法，不是上述的屈機。我其實從小就是馬勒當拿的球迷，所以一向有很多馬勒當拿扭波的影帶和片段。我腦海中，充滿了馬勒當拿的扭波智慧和技術。只可惜，我的身體構造，在現實踢波時完全不能用上百份之一。就是我知道怎去扭，也做不到那個速度和爆炸力。所以，玩winning，是完全可以令我把腦海的扭波技術，發揮出來。
各位喜愛Winning eleven的朋友，加油吧！
by黃島主
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Frankie(WE Fans) 2008-05-02 20:33
Frankie(WE Fans) 2008-04-30 21:21
Nelson, I am waiting for your reply as I have sent you the PSN for longtime.
Edmond ,try to fix the online issue.
Master, I have a night shift on 3.5.2008, cannot join your guys.
Edmond 2008-04-30 16:06
今屆我投降了，如島主所講，呢隻game我都唔係咁喜歡，所以唔想浪費時間鑽研。
所以除非有特別事件令我改變心態，否則黎緊用WE2008的MWC，我都只會來「湊腳」，志在參與同埋儲bid球隊的分。
黃島主 2008-04-30 12:17
Nelson,
您可以到PS3開機後的平台，入去"Friend"，再check message，您就會見到outstanding的message或request for friend。只要我們成為「朋友」(吾係傳淫照個d)，大家就可以係PS3 login後互相知道對方已在網上。
另外，個人不大喜歡屈機打法，而我亦相信這是這個winning2008最大的bug。因為，傳聞這個winning2008係日本Sony為了谷銷量，而強迫Konami提早推出winning。所以，這個winning game根本就是再未完善下，就推出市場。我說這些，其實是估計下個winning 將會改掉那些屈機的打法。您說，怎麼可能一條balance強的人入到禁區，可以如入無人之景？如果佢吾改，睇怕再無人玩winning，而改玩fifa。事實上，論畫面，論流暢，我覺得fifa這次辦得比這個winning好。
所以，一打屈招，就大家一定會揀Inter、Barcelona、Chelsea.....跟住，就是不斷「單挑」。一條友，老爆....
島主
Nelson 2008-04-29 21:54
How to accept your request as friends?
For team selection, I suggest all to use wat teams then we can practise our wat technique and anit-wat technique
黃島主 2008-04-29 12:22
Nelson,
yes, we can play online game, let say, the night on 3.5.2008, what do u think? By the way, it seems that you still have not replied my request as friend in PS3 online.
Otherwise, i cannot know whether u have been onlined. As at today, I only have connection with Frankie in PS3 online.
Further, I would suggest if we play online, would it be fair not to use those "wat" players and teams, such as Barclona, Chelsea, Inter, AC.......
Master
Nelson 2008-04-27 09:57
Frankie(WE Fans) 2008-04-27 08:54
Nelson 2008-04-25 10:21
Master, if searching opponents, I usually select "English", when creating a match room, I will avoid to play with "foreigner" like names or the one with poor linking, so I play with HK guys!
How about to have a on-line tournament with Robert, you, me, Frankie...?
黃島主 2008-04-24 15:15
Nelson，正如我先前所說，我碰到的香港勇士不多，而大多的都是日本狗子。
島主
Nelson 2008-04-23 22:34
How about HK on-line, since there is no lag, so it's similar with playing face to face.
黃島主 2008-04-21 13:20
i think it is not a matter of smart. it is just all of us to have taking time to accustom to the new skills as this version is very different with the past version of winning. At least, computer will not "wat" you.
aai.....after several months' enthusim, my willing to play winning has been cooled down...and take no more willingness to play the network....
Nelson 2008-04-20 21:10
黃島主 2008-04-19 12:42
Nelson
golden goals，都不是time lag......
一部份是網上對戰，一部份是對電腦。
尤其，現在我喜歡對電腦，好過玩網上network。因為，漸漸對Network上的屈機打法生厭。
Master
Nelson 2008-04-18 14:18
黃島主 2008-04-16 10:14
Nelson,
here is my newest update of golden goal : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z90EgPYyeHM
i have added you as "maldini711" in PS3. Therefore, when we online, we see each other.
Master
Edmond 2008-04-16 09:13
Nelson 2008-04-16 00:30
Edmond 2008-04-15 21:21
E-mail？我睇左啦，你有叫我覆咩？
黃島主 2008-04-15 16:29
hey Nelson,
why not record the score of your Zanetti golden goal for passing 5 defenders for our apprepriation?
u know? Maradona also only passed 5 English defenders in 1986. So Nelson now u have already exceeded the glory of Maradona.
Master
黃島主 2008-04-15 16:23
Nelson,
u r correct, i also find there is no or not much lag between HK players. However, the chance of meeting HK players in ranking play is rather lesser. I think i usually meet 1 hk player out of 15-20 Japanese players....
of course, u can set up a room for hk players only. maybe we can meet someday in Network. I knew Frankie did once open "invitation room" in the Network for me but i missed it.
Nelson, what is your "PS3" login name? (not winning name) Also "Maldini711"? we can know each other's online if we connect to be friends in our PS3.
Master
Nelson 2008-04-15 14:37
Edmond 2008-04-15 11:40
好多日無黎，原來多左咁多野睇。
睇黎大家都好沉醉於網上WE對戰...都好o既，從Committee的積極性黎睇，仲有無MWC VIII都成問題，開闢其他對戰形式過下癮都係一件好事。
MiniWorldCup2008-04-15 16:24
黃島主 2008-04-15 11:37
HI Nelson,
In fact i am of course not the so-called king of anything. Well, i also dun like playing lag in the game, what i said is just my experience in Network and i never be proud of using lag to win opponents. Actually, I have been seldom playing Network since i hate win by lag or ESPECIALLY LOSING BY LAG!!! u would be extremely angry when u thought u had already tackled the ball but in fact the opponent had already moved into your penalty box as a result of lag and u lost then.
Nelson, u might also find that players in Network not often choose Brazil although it is a great team for dribble but its defence is SO WEAK for dirty skill for time lag. Therefore, actually when u meet with people like playing lag-tactics, u will feel frustrated. Especially when u lose by time lag with a 3-division C player and u will lose 20 points!!! Think about u only score 6 points by winning 1 game!!
I remember i once attended 63x points something and then return and stop at 600 around...the maximum rank i remember i did squeeze into top 1000 something but now of course i back to 3xxx something....
Now i would rather play more with computer and with actual friends.
Master
Nelson 2008-04-15 10:14
Hi all,
I am now in Division 1, score 608. My on-line name is maldini711, my room name is also the same.
I normally use Inter (not AC), I want to suppliment Master's info, Inter's terrifying players are 伊巴, 阿祖安奴 and J Zanetti. I used Zanetti to dribble 5 players from the back through the sideline into small box and score!!
Also, in this version, if you use good body balance defence player (even with lower speed and technique) you can dribble a long way due to good balance!!
Nelson 2008-04-15 10:14
Hi all,
I am now in Division 1, score 608. My on-line name is maldini711, my room name is also the same.
I normally use Inter (not AC), I want to suppliment Master's info, Inter's terrifying players are 伊巴, 阿祖安奴 and J Zanetti. I used Zanetti to dribble 5 players from the back through the sideline into small box and score!!
Also, in this version, if you use good body balance defence player (even with lower speed and technique) you can dribble a long way due to good balance!!
Nelson 2008-04-15 10:09
Thanks Master, I think you are King of lag among us.
BTW, I misunderstand your golden goal video as result of lag, sorry! You are really King of dribble!!